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...That SPN bigbang thing

The story, the excerpts of it I've read, isn't new to me with regard to the racist tropes. The writer of that particular story is showing what she's learned about Haiti, and blacks, and victims of certain disasters that are mostly poc. I hate the story. I consider it vile. But in many ways, it's a typical example of what creative white racists do when writing stories that are set in Haiti.

I want to point out this: every time I see a 'how could anyone' I'm thinking, 'Be educated and creative and have had your education be structured and facilitated by white racists in a racist system, given 500 years of lies and other things with regard to what whiteness is and what Blacks are, well, I'm sure given a Big Bang assignment it wouldn't be hard for any number of those of y'all who are pearl clutching to generate something as ugly.'

I'm almost inclined to type, "Oh, give it a rest and let go of your pearls."

Am I too cynical maybe? I don't think so. But holler with your thoughts/feelings.

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fightingwords
Jun. 15th, 2010 06:11 pm (UTC)
Eh, you know. It's bad, but it's expected. Those white folks feigning shock? Always feign shock. It's a requirement, right? To prove that they're not racist like she is.
skywardprodigal
Jun. 15th, 2010 07:41 pm (UTC)
It's like by feigning shock they're comforting themselves they're not Klan. To (sorta) pull from brightfame, maybe some of them are sincere, but there's obvious desperation too.

fightingwords
Jun. 15th, 2010 07:48 pm (UTC)
It's a catch-22. Either they're sincere, which means they're so blindly naive they make my teeth hurt, or they're so cynical they feel they must pretend to be shocked and outraged.
littleeva
Jun. 15th, 2010 06:12 pm (UTC)
I really understand why this is offensive, but frankly, I've been reading fanfic for a long time and really, it doesn't get to me anymore.

What the issue is now is that before, folks used to write fanfic and it was bad, but it wasn't all that well read because in 1995 the Internet wasn't as populated as it is now. Today it's different because the Internet is a lot bigger than it used to be and when you write fanfic now, you have to expect critique. Why? Because more people are reading stories now, and thank God they are people who have all points of view. You ain't writing for eighteen year old white guys/gals anymore. So when you put writing on a public forum, expect that people will have something to say about it. I mean I watched Law & Order for years and they NEVER got the grand jury scenes correct, so there you go, people will write what they want, BUT they have to expect people to say, "that sucks" or "that's racist."

I'm reading a lot of the comments and I wonder if people would have felt better if the story was about events that happened after 9/11? In that case they're not using PoC but I'm a New Yorker and that story probably would have offended me, so I really don't know what the solution is.

Edited at 2010-06-15 06:21 pm (UTC)
skywardprodigal
Jun. 15th, 2010 07:53 pm (UTC)
I really understand why this is offensive

Nice to know.

I've been reading fanfic for a long time and really, it doesn't get to me anymore.

How long is that?

I'm reading a lot of the comments and I wonder if people would have felt better if the story was about events that happened after 9/11?

I really hope not.

In that case they're not using PoC but I'm a New Yorker and that story probably would have offended me, so I really don't know what the solution is.

They SHOULD be using PoC if it's set in New York. Unless they're Warner Bros producing friends, that is.
littleeva
Jun. 15th, 2010 08:20 pm (UTC)
I should have said reading fanfic online, and that would be since 1995.

What's wrong with this story is once, again, using PoC as props. Put it this way. Say you're a doctor in Haiti after the earthquake. Now the last thing you'll want is romance. So, IMO, maybe the story should, if it was to be set there, have been about two doctors helping the PEOPLE in Haiti and maybe how their initial prejudices are smashed by what they see there. But have the Haitian people as REAL PEOPLE. How do you do that? Research the language, the culture and if you can't do that, then change the setting.

One thing I really don't like is having a disaster as a backdrop for romance, even though it sort of happened to me, (it wasn't disaster but working with infants with HIV) the romance didn't happen until AFTER. So the image of two guys making out in the middle of an earthquake doesn't sit well with me.

Edited at 2010-06-15 08:37 pm (UTC)
misscam
Jun. 16th, 2010 12:50 am (UTC)
There are ways to write stories about Haiti, and write it well, I'm sure. But making it the backdrop for White Men Angst and Sexing ain't it to begin with, I'm equally sure.

Someone pointed me to that thing yesterday, and I was squicked just seeing the artwork, as it was using actual images from the earthquake. I think someone did the math that the author had to have started writing that thing like instantly after the earthquake. There's too soon and there's THAT.

And now I see from the quotes is full of the sort of patronising, vile racism that so many seem to think isn't racism because it's not meant to be racist, see? Twice the fail for the prize of one, I guess.

Actually, might have to count it three just for the cat. What the HELL author.
skywardprodigal
Jun. 16th, 2010 04:50 pm (UTC)
But making it the backdrop for White Men Angst and Sexing ain't it to begin with, I'm equally sure.

Agreed.

and I was squicked just seeing the artwork, as it was using actual images from the earthquake.

Tragi-porn. :(

And now I see from the quotes is full of the sort of patronising, vile racism that so many seem to think isn't racism because it's not meant to be racist, see?

*nods* It is indeed.


Actually, might have to count it three just for the cat. What the HELL author.


Oh, the humanity.
sparkymonster
Jun. 16th, 2010 11:10 am (UTC)
Post the long comment. Because it's entirely true. We live in white supremacist culture. Our media feeds us images which support that. Of course this will come out in fiction"
skywardprodigal
Jun. 16th, 2010 04:47 pm (UTC)
Thanks. I've posted variations of it around. Hopefully it's not redundant. I'm hoping that anyone who's caught up with that nonsense will take a look at what happened and NOT pretend they could never do what gatorgrrrl did.
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